Tuesday, May 22, 2018

Opal to the group about religion argument

You may fundamentally disagree about whether or not the chapel/temples should be for profit, but that is the way it's done, and if you decide to make money off of them, if the people who worship at those places find out that the money has been used for anything other than enrichment of those chapels and the causes those deities support, they will leave. They only came here under the understanding that their god, muradin ? would have a temple here, and if you think I am passionate, you will find them to be moreso. It's the way it's done. the commonplace and expected way a temple is run is to allow the cleric for the temple to decide how those funds are used. Most often, they use them to take care of the poor, those in need for whatever reason. I'm not quite understanding why anyone would consider that a bad thing.

Elder:
After the conversation we had just a few days ago, I would think that you of all people would understand why I am so firm in my position. A month ago I wasn't sure whether or not deities existed, but I still wouldn't have gone out of my way to piss one off. Now, I know at least one of them is real, and there is no way I want someone of that power angry with us. And that's just the beginning. They exist, and what we do is tiny compared to their power. I don't think that allowing their clerics to make money decisions with the small amount they bring in is asking that much.
However. AGAIN, you know why this is suddenly important to me. Even if I don't have a dedication to my chosen deity here at dragonspear, I'm almost glad I didn't mention it or bring it up publicly now, as I feel I would have been almost punished for it.
What have you got against the deities, or do you just not believe they exist?
I would have thought understanding the potential for wrath from a deity would be simple for you. If a large powerful being claims something as theirs, example, items dedicated to them in their shrine, do you really want to be the person that upsets that large powerful being by trying to claim what has been given to them? I would think not.

Stagnor:

You claim to have spoken with a deity. You claim he has given you this mission. Maybe as such, you feel that you have claim to anything given to him, because you know that using his offering to build up the castle and bring in more dwarves is exactly what your deity would want. But does that mean since you got yours, you don't care whether the funds for the rest of the deities is misused? Because your deity is pleased with you, screw the rest?
If you've met a deity and know how powerful they really are, why would you risk your life, your friends, and your cities futures for a pittance?


I have met Mystra, Mother of the Weave and all Magic. Her temple is wonderful, and they open their doors every night to the poor of Waterdeep, giving them a warm place to sleep, and food and shelter if they need it. They care for their community, and it's beautiful.

Can we not allow our chapels and temples to do the same? Will we really take that opportunity away from them, and punish our own city by not caring for our poor and broken? Are these people not our responsibility now that we've planted the seeds for a city?

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